Tim Casey 3 Posted August 18, 2019 If you think one job that software is likely to replace is your everyday SysAdmin. The question is not whether it will happen but when. You would have one system controller on the network that would take care of provisioning, secure configuration, patching, testing etc. on other systems. What do you think? Share this post Link to post
james mckinlay 116 Posted August 18, 2019 before AI - rundeck will replace sysadmins 🙂https://www.rundeck.com/new-to-rundeck rundeck + stackstorm = no need for L1 SOC or sysadmins 🙂 🙂 <reaches for flameproof suit> https://medium.com/netflix-techblog/introducing-winston-event-driven-diagnostic-and-remediation-platform-46ce39aa81cc 1 Share this post Link to post
Steve Lord 9 Posted August 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Tim Casey said: If you think one job that software is likely to replace is your everyday SysAdmin. The question is not whether it will happen but when. You would have one system controller on the network that would take care of provisioning, secure configuration, patching, testing etc. on other systems. What do you think? Surely people would need to be able to do those things successfully with sysadmins before replacing them? 1 Share this post Link to post
Kevin Beaumont 111 Posted August 19, 2019 My view is: won't happen. Automation is and will continue to happen, e.g. most (but not all) orgs have invested in SCCM etc to automate PC deployment for example, but they still need people to build those images for deployment, set the Group Policy etc. I think sysadmins will end up doing slightly more interesting work. Share this post Link to post
james mckinlay 116 Posted August 19, 2019 I have scripts that do all this -> "build those images for deployment, set the Group Policy " ..but agree with this "I think sysadmins will end up doing slightly more interesting work." 22 minutes ago, Steve Lord said: Surely people would need to be able to do those things successfully with sysadmins before replacing them? if you're not part of the solution - you are part of the problem 🙂 Share this post Link to post
Michael D 11 Posted August 19, 2019 This makes sense when you look at cloud orchestration or virtualization automation. But you still have to maintain those systems and do work inside those systems and get initial images set up. That's also a different set than anyone maintaining endpoint systems for end users, which won't go away any time soon or even later. And by the time that 'sysadmin' is being really threatened, that's when our centralized-decentralized-centralized cycle will come back around to decentralized again. You know, like mainframes to PCs to virtualization/cloud to...neural? Share this post Link to post
Kevin Beaumont 111 Posted August 19, 2019 Aye, for me it’s a similar one to hype execs have nowadays about AI replacing the need for security people. Yeah: but no. Share this post Link to post
Tim Casey 3 Posted August 19, 2019 Think longterm. 100 years. True, we’ll need humans to manage the AI-SysAdmin system; and this will be true for large organizations, but small orgs will need human sysadmins for sure. I also think near term we’ll get better voice/command AI. There is so much potential for growth. I’m talking about having a conversation with your computer. Cortana/Alexa is a joke right now. Share this post Link to post
Steve Lord 9 Posted August 20, 2019 In 100 years we'll all be dead, and I suspect those that will be around will be tackling different problems in a very different world. If anything I see applied AI handling low hanging fruit for sysadmins rather than replacing them, freeing them up for more interesting work as Kevin put it. We've seen this already in other ML applications like Bayesian spam filtering instead of having people forward spam to be blocked (which was a thing in the late 90s for some people). 1 Share this post Link to post
Kevin Beaumont 111 Posted August 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, Steve Lord said: In 100 years we'll all be dead, and I suspect those that will be around will be tackling different problems in a very different world. If anything I see applied AI handling low hanging fruit for sysadmins rather than replacing them, freeing them up for more interesting work as Kevin put it. We've seen this already in other ML applications like Bayesian spam filtering instead of having people forward spam to be blocked (which was a thing in the late 90s for some people). I work in a SOC where people forward spam to be blocked 😄 1 Share this post Link to post
james mckinlay 116 Posted August 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Kevin Beaumont said: I work in a SOC where people forward spam to be blocked 😄 You need to talk to @Ed Tucker Share this post Link to post
Mark Parry 2 Posted August 20, 2019 If your thinking about the future of AI, I recommend reading the book "Our Final Invention" by James Barrat.@Kevin Beaumont - I'm in the same boat! Share this post Link to post
Kevin Beaumont 111 Posted August 20, 2019 Every company I've worked as has had a manual spam mailbox thingy, due to spam filtering not working as well as it should. It's good for us as Microsoft are so bad at securing Azure and Office365 we get O365 phishing hosted by Microsoft getting through, keeps me in a job. Share this post Link to post